Pornstar James Deen makes his mainstream film debut in Paul Schrader’s The Canyons, and he opened up to Gawker about kissing a guy on screen, his same-sex experiences and sharing a hole with another dick:
On kissing a dude in The Canyons: I’ve kissed other dudes in my life, so it’s not really a big deal. I have this conversation a lot because there is still a lot of homophobia in the world and in adult films, when you’re sharing a scene with another dude and a lady, sometimes certain things come up: gay this, gay that. The way I define gay or homosexuals is a sexual attraction to a member of the same sex. I fully believe that people can engage in any sort of activity. Like I hate basketball, but I’ve played basketball before and it doesn’t make me a professional basketball player. That [gay-sex] scene was a very important part of the movie, because it kind of represents the power switch. I think Bret was really worried I wouldn’t want to do it. It’s part of the script. It’s not like it’s real life. I’m not shooting a porno where I have to get physically erect and have sex with a dude. I think it was kind of a weight off of everyone’s shoulders that I wasn’t going to create an issue with it.
On whether he’s had gay experiences: Yeah, in my life when I was a kid. I feel like there is that college period in the majority of people’s lives where they are getting to know themselves and they are experimenting with their sexuality and trying different things and having different thoughts and stuff like that. When I was younger, I think I was like 15 or something, I would have a moment where I was like, I don’t know, maybe I like guys, maybe I like girls, what is life? I experimented and I never really . . . I’m not attracted to dudes. I kinda sometimes feel bad about that, I feel like I’m supposed to be because I hang out in San Francisco so much and people make me feel really bad for being a straight, white dude and I feel like I’m doing something wrong for being a straight white dude.
On why sharing a girl’s hole with another dick isn’t gay: I think if you’re using hole to rub your dicks against another guy’s, then yeah, it’s a pretty homosexual activity but [not] if you and another dude together are having sex with a girl. The difference between a homosexual D.P. and a straight D.P. is when I go up to a girl and I’m like, “Oh my god, I want to see you just be a dirty little slut and do all these filthy things, I would love you to fuck two cocks at the same time, that would be so fucking hot, I want to be in that fucking hole,” that’s kind of a straight D.P. A gay D.P. is me going up to you and being like, “Hey bro, know what we should do? We should go find a girl and wrap her around our penises and rub our penises together. Let’s go find a girl to D.P.” I feel like it’s the motivation.
On the circle of anal life: Really, what it comes down to is that for every girl that likes it in the butt, there is a dude that likes it in the butt. And for every girl that doesn’t like it in the butt, there is probably a gay man out there who doesn’t like it in the butt.